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Steven Jones gets a junk science award for embracing nano thermite. Simple ordinary thermite AND major quantities of ordinary high explosive that are properly installed WITH explanation of how to accomplish that are competent, he does not do that nor will he consider it could be done at construction. Originally, when the words "nano thermite" first arrived on the scene, Jones indicated he felt the entire demolition was somehow done with thermite. More, recently Steven Jones has quickly added at the end of his statements, as well as R. Gage, who does the same, that,"Of course conventional explosives were also used extensively."

However there is more, he was the recipient of the preliminary plans of Leslie E. Robertson that went to Yamasaki for presenting the Twin towers architectural concept. Silverstein Associates had blueprints, scanned them, and altered them by the digital addition of revision tables to the digital scans for the purpose of making them appear as final documents.

Scholars for 9-11 Truth

.http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/

The Original Forum

Generally there were a small percentage of the members had structural engineering experience so materials recognition skills required to analyse ground zero photos. A heavy tendancy to spend inordinate amounts of tiime trying to make FEMA's core information fit 9-11 images when they all show an empty core area. An electrical engineer and the

I have submitted my demolition site as well as the concrete core site to Scholars for 9-11 Truth 3 times in total and have not gotten any response what so ever. I have spoken with Steven Jones on the phone and asked that he discuss further with me the issue of the concrete core. There has been no follow up other than the response of Ginny Howard the secretary for ST9-11

Dear Mr. Brown --

We've had a gratifying surge of interest in Scholars for 9/11 Truth. Please accept my apologies for not responding more fully right now, as I am in catch-up mode.

Thanks very much for writing; we're glad to hear from you!

I'll be back in touch with you shortly.

Ginny Howard
Membership Secretary
Scholars for 9/11 Truth

Steven Jones has labeled this an image showing "core columns" in a PDF which can be downloaded. The image is looking across the floor and does not look into the core area. Only interior box colmns are seen on the left

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Examine How The Position Of Scholars for 9-11 Truth on the core of the towers is used on the randi.org JREF forum in attempts to dimiss the concrete core.

#6895 Nov. 7, 2006, 03:53 PM
stateofgrace
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by Christophera
Basicaly all of you have no raw evidence whatsoever for the 47, steel core columns.

What a miserable place to argue from.

GOT EVIDENCE?

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html

Chris,I think you are only person on the planet that doesn't believe the Towers had steel core columns.

Even the immensely nutty scholars accept there were 47 steel columns.

Quote:
Controlled demolition was also suggested by the fact that the collapses were total, with the 110-story Twin Towers collapsing into a pile of rubble only a few stories high. The core of each tower had consisted of 47 massive steel columns, which extended from the basements through the roofs. Even if we ignore all the other problems in the official "pancake" theory of the collapses, those massive steel columns should have still been sticking up a thousand feet in the air. Zelikow’s commission handled this problem with the audacious claim that "[t]he interior core of the buildings was a hollow steel shaft."

http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2005-07-29-pressclub.php

Later Ginny Howard left Scholars for 9/11 Truth following a notice to a mailing list.

.Ginny Howard's NOTICE

Steven Jones discussion with Leslie E. Robertson.

When searching google with these terms, "steve jones interviews Leslie Robertson" All of these pages are matches

http://www.911blogger.com/taxonomy/term/32

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/210207_wtc_designers

html http://stj911.org/

http://liftingthefog.org/bios/jones.html

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/world-trade-center-building-designers-pre-9-11-claims-strongly-implicate-towers-should-have-remained-standing-9-11

http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/05/world-trade-center-building-designers.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cs32en/911/Overview/Sources/G-M

And they all link to

http://visibility911.com/media/

Which has this video on it about Chertoff. All of the above pages link to this page with a link that is identified as the Jones/Robertson radio discussion but the page does not have that audio file available on it.

Finally I found the audio file at,

http://www.fakewar.org/intel.html

http://www.imploded.org/BOMBED/s_jones_robertson_061026.mp3

I begin to search for the key moments when Robertson or Jones is talking about the towers structure. I had remembered, and posted on many forums that "Jones is the one that identifies steel core columns, not Leslie Robertson. And, as I re-vist the interview in detail that is what I find.

This is probably the reason that the links of all those pages go to a page that DOES NOT have the audio recording available.

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Steven Jones and Leslie Robertson on the radio

On Oct 26th, 2006, KGNU Radio in Denver Colorado hosted a discussion between Steven Jones, then a professor of physics at BYU, and Leslie Robertson, an engineer involved in the original World Trade Center project. Below the times of the original from which specific statements were extracted. then the final times for the same extracted segments are below after being recombined.

Original .mp3 interview
INTRO
00:04:44;22 EDIT 1 L.E. Robertson-Not built to demolish

00:17:15;10 EDIT 2 S. Jones-47 core columns

00:20:30;19 EDIT 3 L.E. Robertson-how could the explosives be placed- "Of the columns around the,......" - S. Jones, "and the core columns"

00:24:11;23 EDIT 4 S. Jones-collapse, L.E. Robertson, "floor by floor basis"

After editing about 20 minutes out, we get to the structural substance. S. Jones is the one that says "Steel core columns", not Robertson.

Edited, excerpts version.
00:00:46;04 EDIT 1

00:01:19;05 EDIT 2

00:02:07;26 Jones-47 core columns

00:02:19;11 EDIT 3 L.E. Robertson-Not built to demolish

00:03:52;13 EDIT 4

Of special interest

00:03:12;18 L.E. Robertson-"Of the columns around the,......" (The studio mixer cut the level and there appears to be an edit!)

00:04:27;09 L.E. Robertson, "floor by floor basis"

00:04:46;23 L.E. Robertson-"and the core of the building"

ANNOTATED TRANSCRIPT

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/Roberts_AnnotatedJones-RobertsonTranscript.pdf

Another curious thing is at the stj911.org site. A page identifying a link to the Aman Zafar photos, which is the source of the only image of either towers core without the outer steel floors standing. Note that no other 9-11 website uses that image except for the one you are on now.

http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/index.shtm

http://stj911.org/evidence/wtc.html#design_claims

What happens is that the link goes to guide.opendns.com, as if there was no such domain.

http://guide.opendns.com/?url=amanzafar.no-ip.com%2FWTC

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